does goat poop break down

She always has hay, mineral, and sodium bicarbonate available to her for free choice. As time went on, I got out of a lot of the groups that seemed to have agendas or where the advice I saw there didn’t seem logical or dependable – ie. In this case, plant material for renewable biofuel. Removing her uterus sounds like a good idea. Goat berries are actually very dry. I’m thinking of getting my vet to take a look but i wanted to ask around in case someone had an idea what it is. So she is moving closer to diarrhea — NOT constipation. She was the first born and was really active at first but is now a lot less active than her siblings. If she is not eating, you definitely need to call the vet. She struggles when going to the bathroom. If she is not nursing enough, she won’t poop. That means the kid was dehydrated and was absorbing the water, which would be due to not consuming enough milk. I personally would treat for coccidia at this point. Thanks for sharing this information. It can take a few days for their body to adjust to the higher moisture content of grass. The most common reason for a kid to not poop much in the first few days is starvation. I usually never see any of our kids poop, and all 650 have been fine. More power to you! Constipation is caused by too little water in poop. Either type of obstruction means he could die without veterinary attention. Two ounces for a boer kid is nowhere close to what she needs. If it’s an all-species milk replacer, those are terrible and may be causing a problem with dehydration, especially if it is not being mixed with enough water. I have a 5yo Nigerian Pygmy Doe, Amelia. His body has to make that transition to being a ruminant. That sounds like either worms or coccidiosis, or it could be a combination of the two. Scouring stopped almost immediately after one day of Scourban (6ml a day) but now we have seen ZERO poo for 2 x days (he wears a nappy as he stays inside with us as he’s pretty weak) should we reduce/stop using scourban? You just have to hold it in her mouth until she gets the amount she needs. That’s not constipation. Typical NPK values for goat manure are around 1/2 - 2 N: 0.3-1P: 1-3K and a range of trace elements as well. BTW, we did see this very thing about 9 years ago, in another buckling. She stands with her tail tucked a lot, and isn’t as active as the others. Kids with poop on their back end are usually dealing with coccidiosis or a case of intestinal parasites (worms). Some would say they look like blueberries. Does in heat hunch up and arch their back like that, and if your vet has never owned goats, he or she may not realize this. It is absolutely vital that you get milk into them immediately. Hopefully he doesn’t have a broken rib or broken hip bone. We now have a 2 week old buckling in the house. He’s pooped and he keeps grunting and farting, could he be having troubles peeing? Besides, it’s a good excuse to spend time with your goats. She could have some type of bacterial infection in her intestines, which caused the diarrhea. ... that could be used to perform the complex chemistry needed to break down plant matter on an industrial scale. Unlock additional features, and fewer ads while browsing. At the rate she is going she will die of starvation. https://thriftyhomesteader.com/deworming-goats/. Because most livestock are herbivores (plant eaters), their poop doesn't contain harmful pathogens that can contaminate food crops. It is not getting fat. So if he is not pooping, then there is either something wrong with him or something wrong with what you’re doing. Too much water in the poop mean diarrhea and that would create poop that could stick to the back end. Access to PASTURE #3 (goats will break down leftover corn stalks) for 2-3 weeks. If you do have a constipated goat, it may have one of the very serious conditions listed above that would need veterinary attention. Is he making any noise? I have 5 week old orphaned twin bucks. About the only reason a newborn doesn’t poop is because (a) there is something wrong with their digestive tract and they’re going to die, or (b) they’re dehydrated or not getting enough milk. You really do not need to worry about him pooping. In fact, enterotoxemia, bloat, and thiamine deficiency are all well-documented conditions caused by feeding errors and are much more common than constipation. Just leave a bucket available, and he’ll start drinking from it when he wants. I gave energy drink and milk and bcomplex but situation did not settle, I continued with same and gave antibiotics but still the situation becoming worse, not sure whether it will be alive tomorrow or not, we don’t have experienced vet doc near by. When they eat on acres they get fat then I put them in fenced area. I was wondering if mineral oil was safe to administer to a baby in hopes to move her feces on through. We made an appointment with the vet and they said she was anemic and gave us dewormer, a steroid and an antibiotic. She’s only 15 lbs. It is goat candy, they do love it but it isn't really good for them. Now check your email to confirm your subscription. They can’t go without food as long as a single-stomach animal. My husband said this morning he also felt a loose tooth. I know it’s challenging to get a dam-raised kid to take a bottle, but it is possible. He didn’t poop all day again so I just did it and he pooped chunks again. Since he is 7 months, that’s a little old to have coccidiosis, as it usually affects younger kids when they’ve just been weaned. He is also searching for water a lot when we go outside, since I have multiple places with water. Goes in a corner and paws at the ground. We didn't hear any rumen activity for several days,and poop was minimal..there were 4 days that I don't think I saw ANY bowel movements. He will come to me and jump on me and nibble at my fingers. Unfortunately, that post mentioned no research or even anything in the veterinary literature. In most cases, there is nothing wrong with the goat at all. Since I don’t know how much experience you have or whether it’s possible that she could be pregnant, I have no idea if this is plausible, but that’s what your description sounds like. He is doing alot of laying around and only nibbling on food and water, but what makes me think he's constipated is the fact that when he lays down he shifts from side to side and seems to push occassionally like hes going to the bathroom. Do you know why he had diarrhea? The first 2 days he was hunched (both were) and when I was holding him attempting to give him the bottle he was shivering. It sound like she has some serious medical problems. Hi, I’m in Australia and a goat novice! Went to the vet and they did an enema. She’s in pain and I feel terrible. I bring her out warm water twice a day when I feed her. He also has some low sugar cheerios cereal as a treat. If she is not eating, she’s not going to have anything to poop out. I’m going to call the vet again in the morning but I’m worried. If she legitimately cannot poop, I’d call the vet’s emergency line and have a conversation about all of her symptoms. She needs more milk. I ran across your post after searching for constipation in goats, because I was told my goat was constipated but I just couldn’t believe it. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it. I know when he’s hungry by how he behaves. The fact that very little came out when you did an enema — which I do not recommend — shows you she had nothing in there to poop out. Thanks for not being another Henny Penny, running around telling everyone the sky is falling! Some days he eats four bottles some he will only eat 2. Most of the time, it is a joy and pleasure to live with these incredible animals. In 18 years, I’ve never had a single cow, sheep, goat, pig, llama, chicken, turkey, duck, goose, or any animal on this farm get constipated. I have not used that particular drug, but usually you do not continue giving an anti-diarrheal drug for more than one or two doses. Once goats go off feed, they don’t survive very long because their rumen needs constant feed to keep working. The word “constipation” is not in the index of Goat Science and Production by Sandra Solaiman. But I think mine is more of a moisture thing. Next, Note What The Poo Looks Like. All was well until I went out to feed one morning and she was in the hunched tail down position with a distended looking abdomen. He’s acting normal. I have a 4 day old doeling that seems to be having problems. If you have a dog, he could be licking up the goat’s poop without you ever seeing it. Hi, my goat kid is around 2 month old, had high fever and dyrehea, after medicines fever is normal and started eating, but next day onwards stopped eating and drinking. I take a handful and pour Mineral Oil over 6 or 7 handfulls in the am after she’s had her 1/2 Cup grain and she eats it right away. They should have 10-20% of their body weight in 24 hours, so 3 pounds = 48 ounces, which is 4.8 (10%) to 9.6 (20%) ounces. We went from a cosmically wet Spring into a drought-stricken Summer and Autumn. Only two of my goats get these 'Christmas tree poos' (laugh), now and again, this is because these two are the top eats and eat A LOT, this increases the amount of liquid in the poo making them moist and clump. If this is a first-time mom, I’d be concerned that she is not producing enough milk. Success! And if you water your yard regularly, it will probably break down in under 45 days. My understanding is that cows milk is harder for baby goats to digest and switching them from goat milk or milk replacer can cause constipation. Thank you for your help!! In addition to making a goat very unhappy by giving them an enema, you are wasting time not figuring out what is really wrong with your goat — or what’s normal about your goat. Hopefully you have other goats there because he will learn to eat solid food and drink water from a bucket by watching the other goats. The other things that pops into my head is what you are feeding him. She has blood that drips from her vagina. Milk is only slightly heavier than water, so you can just convert straight to ml, so 10-20% of 180 to 360 would be 18 to 36 ml per day. People who dam raised back then were accused of being lazy and irresponsible and not caring about their goats. But he keeps crying out I feel like he is miserable, he has good gut sounds and his stomach is soft and palpable, I think I need to have him put to sleep , but he is such a fighter , any suggestions? Unsubscribe at any time. My goat doesn’t eat on a schedule because he won’t take a bottle every 4 or 5 hours. We have a 6 day old bottle baby. 12-14 or 16 weeks every 12 hours then taper down to once a day and then none. This is not true with animals that are eating a natural diet. It may have started with dehydration in that one, as we received him from a person who was not terribly attentive in maintaining her bottle babies. One woman described a doe that was basically acting like a buck, arching her back and making weird noises, which can be common when they’re in heat. my female is about 16 and lost her cud, and I have been giving her mineral oil, yogurt, sweet feed oats orange peels, apples she is very tight and swelled, this article talked but didn’t say anything about what to give a constipated goat to help them use the bath room. Is it living in your house with you? Going off feed is a symptom of just about everything that could be wrong with a goat. When large enough moved outside in a pen with another female and then the two eventually moved into their own stall in the barn with my Morgan Mare. I am ok with that. My goat’s belly is feeling like a balloon he hadn’t passed motion since 2 days and hardly urinate 3-4 times he’s shouting with pain. Thanks for all the knowledge on goats,it sure helped me out a lot,thanks a new goat owner….. You’re welcome! Diarrhea in a kid that age is usually coccidiosis, although they don’t have a fever with that. A loose tooth is not normal either, and I can’t imagine why that would have happened. Your kid is definitely not dehydrated with how much milk you were giving him, and since he’s still drinking more than enough, it sounds like you’re probably just not seeing his poop, which is totally normal. My oldest goat, Phoebe, laid down in the box for a little while. The past two days her appetite has dwindled to her eating around 1-2 ounces per feeding and that’s if she chooses to eat. You’re welcome! We are not sure. Provided electrolytes and minerals as well as fresh hay. The world of Yahoo groups was pretty hostile to those of us brave enough to admit we dam raised back then. There is nothing that a goat does that means they have a sick tummy. He isn’t eating much. I don’t wean kids that small. Tuesday he started him yellow explosive poops. Here is more info on why they need other goat friends: Today it just looks runny with no blood. Take him a poop sample. It’s obvious that humans have a lot of problems with constipation. She is a twin, her brother is doing well. However, he really should be outside and with other goats. Making him drink a bottle. I want to let them back with the rest of the herd at the end of the week but also want them to come back for food. Your email address will not be published. He took to the bottle extremely fast, and is constantly searching for more milk. I appreciate you sharing your experiences, but please do not act like you are the end all of goat husbandry. Just wondering what you think is going on? Dogs love baby goat poop! He is urinating about 3-4 times a day. That actually sounds like a goat in labor. If he stretches out like he is trying to pee but no pee comes out, he could have a urinary stone, which can kill him within a day or two. You absolutely MUST get milk into him. We suspect he has an intestinal blockage, which some would call “constipation,” and that is what it did look like at first. The team generated reconstructions of the many thousands of microbial genomes present in goat-poop samples – taken from a Santa Barbara Zoo resident named “Elway” – and helped identify genes for metabolic enzymes and other digestion-related proteins. Another group that was active for 18 years only had a couple of posts about goat constipation, mostly new people wondering how they’d know if they had a kid that was constipated. I gave Baking Soda which she ate initially but doesn’t seem to be eating now. When she seems like she wants to go the bathroom She walks sideways in a hunched position. Here’s a post on that: https://thriftyhomesteader.com/how-many-kids-can-doe-feed/ If they are not getting enough raw milk, they are more susceptible to worms and coccidiosis because they have a very immature immune system and need the antibodies in the milk, as well as the protein and calcium for growth. I have brought him in away from the other kid so he doesn’t get hurt any more. Every so often, a goat would miss and pee just outside the box. Thank you for your response! Do you think I should continue with the bran or return to his dry pigmy goat mix ? Living through scenarios like this and worse is why I almost never leave four kids with a doe. She is just really uncomfortable when trying to go to the bathroom. He has been doing great until yesterday when we noticed very little poop. I saw the same thing in a chicken group with egg binding a couple of years ago. Perhaps her owner didn’t leave her with mom 24/7 for the first 3 months, or she was one or triplets or quads, and her mother was not producing enough milk. Hi How and when do we introduce water? That’s actually a photo in vet textbooks. Why wouldn’t he be pooping? He only mentions plant poisoning as a cause of constipation in mature goats. Is this normal for a new kid? Truth is, more people are into goats. I sprinkle stall … I thought she might have cramps or something because she ate to much but when i felt her belly it wasn’t very full. Hi, my baby goat is only 4 days old. closer to … You’re one of the few online sources I trust, because you combine your hands-on, practical knowledge with factual information from trusted sources. If he really weighs 3 pounds, I’m surprised he doesn’t have diarrhea. Milk is about 85% water, and that’s gets peed out very quickly. It comes down to the goat's will to live and YOUR willingness to put all out when the goat is too weak to fight for itself. Another person had a buck that started thrusting when she was taking his temperature, which is also normal, yet the first person to comment suggested that the goat was constipated. She is my pet so she has never been bred. He thinks she may have a uterus infection and her uterus scarred to her intestines? She also seems to have a hard time pooping. Warning. Many people have reported problems using milk replacer, sometimes resulting in death. Here is more on diarrhea — A group that was active for 10 years had one cross-posted question that was the same as in another group. 1.8 kg = 1800 grams, so he needs 180 to 360 grams of milk per day. I feel like he cries due to abdominal pain. 0-3 weeks at every 4 hours. Goat manure is an organic source of plant nutrients. I’m glad you’ve found it helpful! The fact that he can’t lay down makes me worry about the hip bone the most. It’s just that he’s in pain. I started out my goat-raising education in 2002 in Yahoo groups. Thrifty Homesteader is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. 24 hours later and my trusted goat friend tells me to give him an enima. She hunches up and bears down. She has dry flaky poop on her tail all the time,. Even if I had one tomorrow, that would mean it happened in 0.02% of kids. How much does she weigh? This does not sound like constipation. Sulfa drugs kill both coccidia and bacteria. What color are the inside of his eyelids? If she ate something like a plastic bag and has a blockage, she may not survive until tomorrow. In the case of the later enemas, the woman even reported that no liquid was coming back out. Mixed at a 1-to-1 ratio with straw, it makes a well-balanced compost pile. I’ve heard of kids 4-6 weeks old still not eating, which is not great for them. We won't send you spam. Here is more information on bottle feeding — https://thriftyhomesteader.com/bottle-feeding-goat-kids/ — and calculating how much she needs to be consuming. hes back arching, tail is down and not really enjoying himself although he sometimes gets energy especially when it’s milk time. He should be gaining at least 5-7 ounces per day, depending upon his breed and based on his birth weight. She was also covered with both types of lice. But I don’t usually see poop from kids that are being raised by their mom because it’s so tiny that it just disappears in the bedding or pasture. Discussion in 'Mini Mania' started by NuMosaFarms, Oct 16, 2012. We work hard to bring the best Goat discussion! She is a ravenous eater, was bottle fed and raised in my house. A woman posted about how her assumption that her wether was constipated ended with having to euthanize him for urinary calculi. The bottom line is that you do NOT have to do anything to make a healthy kid poop. Also my baby is In areas where I could see him poop. If he has not gained any weight in a week, I’m surprised he is still alive. On the flip side, there is a 28 page chapter on diarrhea. My 5 year old pygmy doe is having some issues. The vet we tool him too really didn’t fill us with confidence so I thought I’d ask here before looking for another vet If he has a urinary blockage and can’t pee, he will probably die without surgery. I am at a loss! The Straight Poop: Goat Feces as an Indicator of Health One of the simplest ways to evaluate the health of a goat is to observe its feces. He had an orange, softer poop the first day I had him home, but this changed to a darker brown cracked one, which then turned to nothing. She will not touch it. Took her to the vet, no worms barely any coccidia which he couldn’t believe and he didn’t suspect bloat. An animal with constipation is easy to spot. And it being a holiday weekend Er vet is gonna be very expensive. Cud is what is in its rumen, and they burp it up to chew it. How do you know it’s not pooping? Until recently, I had never even heard of a constipated goat. I’ve given him some bicarbonate of soda which helps. When goat are cold, they hunch their back. Just an occasional cluster. https://thriftyhomesteader.com/bottle-feeding-goat-kids/, https://thriftyhomesteader.com/debunking-9-ill-conceived-notions-abou/, https://thriftyhomesteader.com/preventing-coccidiosis/, https://thriftyhomesteader.com/how-many-kids-can-doe-feed/, https://thriftyhomesteader.com/diarrhea-in-goats/, https://thriftyhomesteader.com/deworming-goats/. I tube fed her warmed goat milk, 2 oz, and kept her warm. If he’s sick and not eating, then you need to find out what is causing him to be sick and treat the cause of the illness. She is also standing hunched. No noise. Pooping like a dog can also happen if the goat is eating an unusually large amount of grass — if they have been eating mostly hay in the past. He’s been eating very good. Now we don't get every last little nannyberry, but it's good enough. Much of the rest of it is absorbed by the body. Milk is 85% water and is the perfect food for babies. Because of the high levels of fatty acids, goat milk breaks down faster in the body; lactose-intolerant people can digest it much more easily than cow’s milk. Is Goat Manure Good for Fertilizer?. I’m not surprised he only has one tooth left. One of the twins took to the bottle with gusto but the other one doesn’t want anything to do with it, he is eating some grain and hobby mix as well as hay. He is drinking and eating a little. He is currently in a cage in the house , I have given him 2ml of banamine it seemed to ease him and he ate . But the biggest symptoms goat producers should look at is the goat’s poop. When they’re sick for any reason, they stop eating. If he is screaming when trying to urinate, he probably has a stone. https://thriftyhomesteader.com/bottle-feeding-goat-kids/ Required fields are marked *. In Diseases of the Goat, Matthews says that a distended belly in a kid may be due to “prematurity, congenital abnormalities, alimentary tract defect, kidney defect, heart defect, high alimentary tract obstruction, pyloric obstruction, abomasal obstruction.” In older kids, it can be due to “abomasal bloat, ruminal bloat, mesenteric torsion, inadequate nutrition, and gastrointestinal parasitism.” An enema, which is the suggested remedy on that site, won’t help any of those problems and would simply make a sick kid feel worse. T work, one potential problem with them is not nursing enough, she needs mom so i a. All the time, it may have a hard time pooping of how to figure out your. They hunch their back when they will break down leftover wheat stalks ) for 2-3 weeks appreciate you your... 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